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Harmon 08-08-2012 11:57 AM
2 mother fucking KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

homegrownmof 08-08-2012 01:07 PM
Amazing effort to say the least

krylon 08-08-2012 02:46 PM
bump.. yeah great effort AK. at least you did something, and tried. too bad none of these sites ever died! argh. i thought having no paypal or payza was definately going to kill these guys. now they're making even more. so sad.

halfpint 08-08-2012 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by krylon (Post 19110997)
bump.. yeah great effort AK. at least you did something, and tried. too bad none of these sites ever died! argh. i thought having no paypal or payza was definately going to kill these guys. now they're making even more. so sad.
How do you know they are making more ?

allasianmedia 08-08-2012 03:03 PM
Good effort, these sites suck! Oron has been the worst for us, as soon as the content is taken down new links under the same account are put up!

krylon 08-08-2012 03:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19111028)
How do you know they are making more ?
because all the uploaders are posting higher earnings.. So I just put 2+2 together.

AdultKing 08-08-2012 08:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by krylon (Post 19110997)
bump.. yeah great effort AK. at least you did something, and tried. too bad none of these sites ever died! argh. i thought having no paypal or payza was definately going to kill these guys. now they're making even more. so sad.
If you look at the right forums you will see several sites are having trouble paying affiliates.

Stop File Lockers has only been going 43 days. In that time we have seen Paypal removed from over 100 file lockers, some large most small. Obviously they will try to hang on, it might take several months before you see the ones who could not live without Paypal disappear.

For those that have moved to other 3rd party payment processors there is another challenge that they face, which is betting their business against the brands of Mastercard and Visa. The time will come where the brand risk for Mastercard and Visa is too great and they are cut loose.

Everyone can help in this regard. If you see a repeat copyright infringing file locker using Mastercard or Visa then complain to Mastercard and Visa. If you see unlawful content on such file lockers (such content usually isn't hard to find) then write an email to Mastercard and Visa and complain. The more emails that the card companies get complaining about illegal content on file lockers the more likely it is that someone will take notice.

Axeman 08-08-2012 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19111373)
Everyone can help in this regard. If you see a repeat copyright infringing file locker using Mastercard or Visa then complain to Mastercard and Visa. If you see unlawful content on such file lockers (such content usually isn't hard to find) then write an email to Mastercard and Visa and complain. The more emails that the card companies get complaining about illegal content on file lockers the more likely it is that someone will take notice.
Good advice. Every bit of attention helps in these cases.

IanUK 08-09-2012 03:18 AM
Oron is still down from here, but if I run a traceroute instead of the old Leaseweb I now get a trace to goscomb.net (?)

I wonder if they are preparing to return ?

SKUP 08-09-2012 04:10 AM
You might want to be carefull with bombing MC and VISA. They already know what they are up to and harassing them won't do any good.

19teenporn 08-09-2012 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19111857)
You might want to be carefull with bombing MC and VISA. They already know what they are up to and harassing them won't do any good.
So, don't do shit would be your advice?

SKUP 08-09-2012 05:19 AM
Maybe you should have looked at my sig before you say things like this ;-)

Paul Markham 08-09-2012 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by krylon (Post 19111105)
because all the uploaders are posting higher earnings.. So I just put 2+2 together.
Minus the money being held back by banks and Paypal. :thumbsup

19teenporn 08-09-2012 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19111942)
Maybe you should have looked at my sig before you say things like this ;-)
Well, lets go back to the first page then....

xXXtesy10 08-09-2012 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19111942)
Maybe you should have looked at my sig before you say things like this ;-)
Fuck off you you arrogant cocksucker. Take a seat in the back where you belong.:321GFY

krylon 08-09-2012 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19111971)
Minus the money being held back by banks and Paypal. :thumbsup
uhm. no.. sorry mr. obvious. I'm saying NEW earnings. with the NEW processors. Sometimes I wonder if you even a real person, or just a forum spam bot.

Nautilus 08-09-2012 02:31 PM
Uploadspace.pl and Xenubox.com file lockers got their Paypal accounts terminated thanks to Met-Art anti-piracy team.

Robbie 08-09-2012 03:48 PM
Bump for good work.

halfpint 08-09-2012 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 19112597)
Fuck off you you arrogant cocksucker. Take a seat in the back where you belong.:321GFY
Nice saying shit to a guy who also helps in fighting piracy ..good job

xXXtesy10 08-09-2012 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19112970)
Nice saying shit to a guy who also helps in fighting piracy ..good job
So what? Manwin does too.. You going to suck their cocks as well?

krylon 08-09-2012 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19112947)
Bump for good work.
bump, are you paul markhams son?

dig420 08-09-2012 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 19113022)
So what? Manwin does too.. You going to suck their cocks as well?
I know... it's been pretty funny watching how amazingly effective the attention whoring on this issue has been considering one big tube = 56,891,321 'filelockers'. But still, AK has managed to keep his name on the front page for 900 weeks with this, so good for him.

Robbie 08-09-2012 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by krylon (Post 19113354)
bump, are you paul markhams son?
No. I am successful. :pimp

AdultKing 08-09-2012 10:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19111857)
You might want to be carefull with bombing MC and VISA. They already know what they are up to and harassing them won't do any good.
We have taken a different approach with payment processing than most Anti Piracy outfits.

We leverage brand risk in order to get Paypal and others to act. We have lines of communication open with Mastercard, Visa, American Express and others however this does not mean that they get a pass until they actually start actively terminating relationships.

We understand other Anti Piracy groups have different approaches and that is fine, we would encourage complaints to be levelled at Visa and Mastercard until they start becoming as pro-active and communicative as Paypal.


Quote:
Originally Posted by krylon (Post 19112626)
uhm. no.. sorry mr. obvious. I'm saying NEW earnings. with the NEW processors. Sometimes I wonder if you even a real person, or just a forum spam bot.
The bravado on some forums is different from the reality and people are heralding earnings before they are actually paid. Regardless, we are going to keep working at shutting down all payment options for these sites. Stop File Lockers project has been running 44 days, in that time we seen Paypal, Payza, Moneybookers and other payment options removed from file lockers, piracy enablers, resellers, video streaming sites and so on.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 19113359)
I know... it's been pretty funny watching how amazingly effective the attention whoring on this issue has been considering one big tube = 56,891,321 'filelockers'. But still, AK has managed to keep his name on the front page for 900 weeks with this, so good for him.
We won't play the game of taking credit for one termination or another. Specifically when we announce terminations we explicitly say we do not claim credit for any termination and that many groups are working on this issue.

Copy Control was set up to further the fight against commercial copyright infringement on every level. We're working on file lockers now, other forms of infringement aren't off limits to us. We do not have the staffing or resources to run multiple campaigns so we will concentrate on file lockers.

This is a shoestring operation, nobody is being paid, it's all volunteered time and effort by multiple people working on the project. We'll keep going as long as the resources we do have don't run out.

anexsia 08-09-2012 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19113361)
No. I am successful. :pimp
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dig420 08-09-2012 10:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19113466)
We have taken a different approach with payment processing than most Anti Piracy outfits.

We leverage brand risk in order to get Paypal and others to act. We have lines of communication open with Mastercard, Visa, American Express and others however this does not mean that they get a pass until they actually start actively terminating relationships.

We understand other Anti Piracy groups have different approaches and that is fine, we would encourage complaints to be levelled at Visa and Mastercard until they start becoming as pro-active and communicative as Paypal.




The bravado on some forums is different from the reality and people are heralding earnings before they are actually paid. Regardless, we are going to keep working at shutting down all payment options for these sites. Stop File Lockers project has been running 44 days, in that time we seen Paypal, Payza, Moneybookers and other payment options removed from file lockers, piracy enablers, resellers, video streaming sites and so on.



We won't play the game of taking credit for one termination or another. Specifically when we announce terminations we explicitly say we do not claim credit for any termination and that many groups are working on this issue.

Copy Control was set up to further the fight against commercial copyright infringement on every level. We're working on file lockers now, other forms of infringement aren't off limits to us. We do not have the staffing or resources to run multiple campaigns so we will concentrate on file lockers.

This is a shoestring operation, nobody is being paid, it's all volunteered time and effort by multiple people working on the project. We'll keep going as long as the resources we do have don't run out.
You concentrate on file lockers because the companies that run them are usually foreign or small. If you took on any one of the umpteen companies that run huge tubes AND post on this board and pay 80% of the webmasters here, you'd be squashed like a bug by someone's atty in about three days because then you'd actually be screwing around with REAL money. This is a good, safe strategy to become GFY fabulous. I commend you.

19teenporn 08-09-2012 10:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 19113484)
You concentrate on file lockers because the companies that run them are usually foreign or small. If you took on any one of the umpteen companies that run huge tubes AND post on this board and pay 80% of the webmasters here, you'd be squashed like a bug by someone's atty in about three days because then you'd actually be screwing around with REAL money. This is a good, safe strategy to become GFY fabulous. I commend you.
At least he's doing something.

Small or not, something.

johnnyloadproductions 08-09-2012 10:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 19113484)
You concentrate on file lockers because the companies that run them are usually foreign or small. If you took on any one of the umpteen companies that run huge tubes AND post on this board and pay 80% of the webmasters here, you'd be squashed like a bug by someone's atty in about three days because then you'd actually be screwing around with REAL money. This is a good, safe strategy to become GFY fabulous. I commend you.
Did you ever consider that people have other online ventures that have nothing to do with pornography?
App developers are getting hit real hard by the file lockers. People that develop scripts and design work people get ripped off big time. It's not too hard to find repositories of 5-100 GB of adobe project files or 10 GB of iPhone apps for jailbroken phones (or android especially).
Mr. King mingles in adult of course but he has other ventures as well.

dig420 08-09-2012 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19113526)
Did you ever consider that people have other online ventures that have nothing to do with pornography?
App developers are getting hit real hard by the file lockers. People that develop scripts and design work people get ripped off big time. It's not too hard to find repositories of 5-100 GB of adobe project files or 10 GB of iPhone apps for jailbroken phones (or android especially).
Mr. King mingles in adult of course but he has other ventures as well.
blah blah blah <am I still on the front page? ok!> blah blah blah

:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 08-09-2012 11:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19113526)
Did you ever consider that people have other online ventures that have nothing to do with pornography?
App developers are getting hit real hard by the file lockers. People that develop scripts and design work people get ripped off big time. It's not too hard to find repositories of 5-100 GB of adobe project files or 10 GB of iPhone apps for jailbroken phones (or android especially).
Mr. King mingles in adult of course but he has other ventures as well.
Thinking it's just porn being hit by piracy is blinkered. Anything that can be stolen and downloaded online is loosing money to piracy. Film industry has changed it's format to something best seen on a widescreen, heard on a great sound system, 3d and in a definition that so far can't be stolen (or am I wrong again :( ), yet DVD sales are down.

Arguing they're up, is stupid. People steal, then buy. :upsidedow

Governments and countries can't afford to keep loosing money to piracy. When a pirate earns money, odds are the producer and the country he lives in, looses some. The only way to stem this is via the money flow. The moment Visa and MC, stop processing for piracy, we take a huge step towards the goal. We will get new laws that will make piracy far less profitable and damaging.

Axeman 08-09-2012 11:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 19113531)
blah blah blah <am I still on the front page? ok!> blah blah blah

:1orglaugh
Let me know when you start up your tube crusade campaign, and I'll be sure to support your cause as well. I won't hold my breathe though.

Russian 08-10-2012 01:27 AM
Would be nice to see AK smash ANY torrent site out there which make bank with premium sms payments.
Difference from PayPal and alike is that it's almost impossible to identify the company behind the phone number since one number is usually used by 100's of companies.

Also, there are whole countries using LOCAL filelockers. I live in a country with population of 10 mil people only and there is the PAID torrent tracker which has over 700k active peers. Price per month is about 1 Euro. Minus 50% which goes to the mobile phone company. The guys make over 300k Euro per month! Go try to sue them. Just try, I'm curious if you can even find a english-speaking local lawyer who knows international copyright laws.

AK is just trying to punch a wind. Filelockers is such a small part of what's really going on out there.

Triple-A 08-10-2012 03:56 AM
^^^^

So you'd rather nothing got done at all and those of us having our content stolen just accept it?

Russian 08-10-2012 04:01 AM
No, I'm just saying that killing payment options does not kill THE SYSTEM.

Triple-A 08-10-2012 04:14 AM
But it's a start... and has had some effect, pirates bleating about their Oron links and lost revenue and time spent upping to another filelocker/s gives me satisfying wood.

Russian 08-10-2012 04:21 AM
What AK will achieve is that direct downloads for money will be changed to p2p downloads for free. A few banners here and there and a popunder will monetize such sites just fine since there will be almost no bandwidth costs comparing to FL.

topnotch, standup guy 08-10-2012 04:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russian (Post 19113782)
What AK will achieve is that direct downloads for money will be changed to p2p downloads for free. A few banners here and there and a popunder will monetize such sites just fine since there will be almost no bandwidth costs comparing to FL.
I'd be happy with that.

What you've just described is something like what the situation was several years ago... when we (i.e. honest webmasters) were making a hell of a lot more money.
.

dig420 08-10-2012 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 19113566)
Let me know when you start up your tube crusade campaign, and I'll be sure to support your cause as well. I won't hold my breathe though.
You're never going to see that. I've been in this biz since 1996. I'm adapting instead of dying. AK is an attention whore looking to stay on the front page as long as possible and doing a great job of it. Vthays fine, but guess what? Tubes aren't going away. File sharing isn't going away. Ever. Not to mention, one big tube takes more views than every file share in the world put together. You guys sit here yanking each others cixks, you have no fuxking idea what's up in this industry anymore. What the fuxk ever. Im sitting in Mandalay bay on my cell with a hot asian vitch passed out next to me, when I wake up I'll keep doing what has to be done. Wake the fuck up. If you're not rich already, bitching like some nickel n dime tool over small potatoes like file shares isn't ginna help you.

Russian 08-10-2012 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 19113789)
I'd be happy with that.

What you've just described is something like what the situation was several years ago... when we (i.e. honest webmasters) were making a hell of a lot more money.
.
Really? Did you read my post? lol

topnotch, standup guy 08-10-2012 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Russian (Post 19113796)
Really? Did you read my post? lol
The swarms of upload monkeys are what really drive the file sharing game and they insist on being paid.

Take away their payment options and they'll scurry off like the roaches they are.

What will then remain will be only a faint shadow of the problem as we now know it.
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