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Old 05-24-2002, 05:28 AM   #1
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4 the next couple hours, I'll answer ALL newbie questions

I'm taking the day off from exposing dopes, idiots, and sleazballs and will spend it helping newbies. This is an offer that comes around about once every 5 yrs or so.

Anyone going to take me up on the offer?
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Old 05-24-2002, 05:30 AM   #2
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What's the best niche and how do I make a lot of money doing this?
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Old 05-24-2002, 05:34 AM   #3
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How come it's 12clicks and not 16clicks?
I like 16clicks more better....
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how to make 20k/month without doing anything?
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What's the best niche and how do I make a lot of money doing this?
Thank you for asking, kind sir.

The best niche right now is whatever one you like yourself. As a potential customer of that niche, YOU understand what people like in that niche.
If you like amateurs, what is it about them that YOU like? Build your sites tailored to what excites YOU. There are enough other people on the net that will like EXACTLY what you like to make you money. Do it well for yourself, and you'll be doing it well for others.
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How come it's 12clicks and not 16clicks?
I like 16clicks more better....
At the time this name was layed on me, I was sending the now defuncted sponsor 12 clicks a day. not 16
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Oh! I have another question.

What kind of drugs are you on, and where can I get some?
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how to make 20k/month without doing anything?
show up at my office, offer to do my job plus 2 others, and ask for a pay cut.
(of course, the other two jobs will have to be fictitious to fit your requirement of not doing anything)
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I have been a bad boy, what do I do to get respect around here?

How do i redeem myself?
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show up at my office, offer to do my job plus 2 others, and ask for a pay cut.
(of course, the other two jobs will have to be fictitious to fit your requirement of not doing anything)
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How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

Nobody ever bothers to answer
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whats a newbie
a newbie is someone who doesn't have a good understanding of any of the following:
1. how to make money in this business
2. how to network in this business
3. how to follow the accepted practices of those who made this industry
4. how to know who's ass to kiss and who to ignore
5. how to ask all the questions you need answered without looking like a spacedog, metaformx, and the like.
6. how quickly lying or cheating will kill you in this business
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Oh! I have another question.

What kind of drugs are you on, and where can I get some?

no drugs, this is a mental exercise. I'm seeing if I can be as nice on the net as I am in person. Even if only for a few hours.
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a newbie is someone who doesn't have a good understanding of any of the following:
1. how to make money in this business
2. how to network in this business
3. how to follow the accepted practices of those who made this industry
4. how to know who's ass to kiss and who to ignore
5. how to ask all the questions you need answered without looking like a spacedog, metaformx, and the like.
6. how quickly lying or cheating will kill you in this business
1.done but i want more
2.done
3.done
4.hmm...
5.trying
6.done
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no drugs, this is a mental exercise. I'm seeing if I can be as nice on the net as I am in person. Even if only for a few hours.
Well stoppit.

It's scary.
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I have been a bad boy, what do I do to get respect around here?

How do i redeem myself?
ask for forgiveness, say you'll turn over a new leaf, and then do it.

oh, and be funny.
nobody likes a bore.
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ask for forgiveness, say you'll turn over a new leaf, and then do it.

oh, and be funny.
nobody likes a bore.
What if i was on a big big board, and everyone just wouldnt give a fuck? What if everyone just said we are not forgiving you? Anything at all I can do?

For example if you were in Tennis Ace's situation ?

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How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

Nobody ever bothers to answer
the answer to this is in direct proportion to the woodchuck's wieght and for how many hours he chucks. Its common knowledge that a woodchuck can chuck wood at a rate of 20lbs. of wood per hour per 10lbs. of woodchuck.
as an equation it would be:

wieght of woodchuck/ 10lbs x 20lbs. of wood x # of hours chucking = a
with "a" being your answer.
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What if i was on a big big board, and everyone just wouldnt give a fuck? What if everyone just said we are not forgiving you? Anything at all I can do?

For example if you were in Tennis Ace's situation ?

having never noticed tennis ace, I'm not really in a position to say but my answer above ALWAYS works. It just takes longer to pull off depending on the severity of your assholiness before you turn over a new leaf.
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You being nice? This is TOOOOO fucking weird!

I'm going back to bed.
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the answer to this is in direct proportion to the woodchuck's wieght and for how many hours he chucks. Its common knowledge that a woodchuck can chuck wood at a rate of 20lbs. of wood per hour per 10lbs. of woodchuck.
as an equation it would be:

wieght of woodchuck/ 10lbs x 20lbs. of wood x # of hours chucking = a
with "a" being your answer.


And here i was thinking it was..

As much wood as a woodchuck would, if a woodchuck could chuck wood. lol
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You being nice? This is TOOOOO fucking weird!

I'm going back to bed.
don't worry. its temporary.
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And here i was thinking it was..

As much wood as a woodchuck would, if a woodchuck could chuck wood. lol
a= the value of: As much wood as a woodchuck would, if a woodchuck could chuck wood. lol
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a= the value of: As much wood as a woodchuck would, if a woodchuck could chuck wood. lol
Hahahah!
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Do you have to be good looking to succeed in this Buisness?

And do we all have to pull your finger?
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Is it really possible to earn a lot of money with a free site ? Or are you using any secret tricks ?
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I got a question? How much traffic can traffic send if you send traffic to traffic?
as much as you send it.
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you've obviously never been to a webmaster convention or you'd know this answer. Although, a few of us do buck the trend and are quite handsome.

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And do we all have to pull your finger?
only fools pull my finger.
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Is it really possible to earn a lot of money with a free site ? Or are you using any secret tricks ?
The only secret trick my sites use are longevity. I still have many listings on yahoo and other places that are no longer possible to get.
(and don't misunderstand me, only a small % of my income comes from my freesites. they are kinda just out there bringing in money. I don't work them)
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12Clicks I'm wondering if non-adult will make more money in the short term because of CC restrictions on adult... Someone posted a thread about this a few weeks ago and it kindof shook me up... To think that so many banks are rejecting "adult" transactions because they are "high risk" -- what does that exactly mean to us and if it does affect us -- who is not affected?
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what is the best way to get search engine traffic to your site without having to spend large amounts of coinage?

who do you consider to be the top 5 sponsors in terms of honesty, conversions and retention?

if you just started in this industry what direction would you go?

and my final question...when are you going to return Gary's love goat to the herd??
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12Clicks I'm wondering if non-adult will make more money in the short term because of CC restrictions on adult... Someone posted a thread about this a few weeks ago and it kindof shook me up... To think that so many banks are rejecting "adult" transactions because they are "high risk" -- what does that exactly mean to us and if it does affect us -- who is not affected?
No, you won't make more money in non-adult if you're in adult right now. It will cost you too much time and energy to get your non-adult stuff up to where your adult stuff already is. Non-adult has been hit as hard or harder than adult already.

There are definately problems with CC's in adult. As a webmaster there isn't too much you can do besides this:
Stay with the big well established programs and processors. Stay away from the jonny come latelies. The big boys will be best suited to roll with the CC punches and keep putting money in your & their pockets.

For example, look at maxcash & their problem with the ftc. how many programs do you think could withstand that? I'll tell you, about 3. If that happened to any of the others they'd be fucked and you'd be fucked
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3) What is the best adult sponsor out there now (all around)?
4) What % of sponsor Shaves sign-ups or Clicks (to have a better conversion ratio)
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submit you're site to every place you can, SEs directories, toplists, everywhere. link all your sites together and all your pages together. That doesn't cost you anything.

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who do you consider to be the top 5 sponsors in terms of honesty, conversions and retention?
Maxcash
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Siccash
Insite adult
not all of these are partnerships so retention is not applicable.
I also like AP for its combo of click & signup. forgot about them at first because I'm dopey.


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if you just started in this industry what direction would you go?
I'd get a job working for a program operator so I understood the business. Then at night I'd build sites and use what I learned during the day.

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and my final question...when are you going to return Gary's love goat to the herd??
its not the herd that wants the goat back.
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you should always use all three. I like recurring because some of these surfers just recur forever. You'd be leaving a lot of money on the table if you used ONLY recurring, however.
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Can I Play?

1) On Thanksgiving should I eat a traditional Turkey or modern Ham?
2) Real beer or Light beer?
3) What is the best adult sponsor out there now (all around)?
4) What % of sponsor Shaves sign-ups or Clicks (to have a better conversion ratio)
5) How close should i be in a relationship with my dog?
6) Will you Fly to N.C. and be my Gay "Don Juan"?
7) Buy Content Or Make my own?
8) If you were in a dark alley and Serge walked up, would you two fight or fuck?

-R3K
1) I always have both
2) light
3) depends on what you're selling. um scratch that. mojosesarch
4) no one that I know of shaves signups. *uniquing* clicks to show a good ratio is SOP
5) listen when he talks to you.
6) N.C. has an airport? I didn't know.
7) if you're single, make your own. if you're married, buy it.
8) no comment
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Old 05-24-2002, 07:20 AM   #43
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How did you make money from Raw Like Sushi?
there were a few people in NY who loved paying us top dollar for huge amounts of clicks. newbie
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Old 05-24-2002, 07:22 AM   #44
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when are we going to have that passionate but short-lived love affair?
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Old 05-24-2002, 07:23 AM   #45
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whats a fucknut

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on a more serious note, whomever took the real 12clicks bring him back before these folks get used to this nice guy;)
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when are we going to have that passionate but short-lived love affair?
short lived?
damn it, my wife said she doesn't talk about my special *problem*
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whats the best type of sites/thing to get into(now- ie. avs sites, free sites, CJ sites?) in the adult industry after you've submitted to TGP's and got a general idea of the industry for a few weeks... thanks!
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Old 05-24-2002, 07:27 AM   #48
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Thank you for asking, kind sir.

The best niche right now is whatever one you like yourself. As a potential customer of that niche, YOU understand what people like in that niche.
If you like amateurs, what is it about them that YOU like? Build your sites tailored to what excites YOU. There are enough other people on the net that will like EXACTLY what you like to make you money. Do it well for yourself, and you'll be doing it well for others.

ahhhh fuck, stop making me agree with you.
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whats a fucknut

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A term of endearment that the old 12clicks used but the new 12clicks finds taboo.
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Should i start a non-adult freehost?
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