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RMG · 08-06-2002, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

I would do both: Try and find a free script or do the simple email/review method?
you don't need to get rich in this business over night. by slowly building your ability and knowledge, you're sure to not skip over important lessons.
I understand that plenty of others have automated submit scripts but it just isn't critical to have them from day one. Buy them when you can. In the mean time do EVERYTHING else you can to live without them.

Also, yesterday I said don't spend your internet money! put it asside to invest in your internet business. doing this will get you the scripts you need much faster.

When I started in this business, EVERYTHING was done by hand.

Never really owned autogallery or anything like that, so I don't know how much easier it makes the reviewing proccess. But, when I ran a tgp a while back, I know recieving 200-300 emails and reviewin' them by hand sure sucked balls. But oh well....gotta do what I gotta do.

08-06-2002, 07:19 AM

401 Shit !

12clicks · 08-06-2002, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika

I consider myself having good understanding of traffic, getting traffic and so on.. I'm also practicing more programming.. (While I'm writing this)

However, I have sometimes came to a conclusion that I suck at salesmanship (compared to fellow webmasters). It may be partly due to my nature, and partly due to cultural differences in USA and my country.

How to learn salesmanship?

Or should I just do what I do and eventually get someone else to make more sales for me?

It depends who you are tying to sell. If you mean sell surfers into buying paysite memberships, I think a european, not quite proper english sales pitch would go over well with US customers because of the *possible* taboo nature of european sites/webmasters.

If you mean selling your stuff to fellow webmasters, thats more of a mystery. No matter what you do, someone will always *not* like your style. the idea is to be everywhere and hit as many people as you can.
Look at me. Every day someone somewhere is posting about how I'm no body in this business, how I cheat webmasters, how I'm an asshole, etc. Yet every morning I look through my mail and see webmasters lining up to get into our programs.
The public opinion of a few cheaters/scammers really doesn't carry the day. The honest people will see through the bullshit and want to work with you.

Its great that you're learning programing. Learn that and learn salesmanship (by watching others) After that, you won't need to hire others and you'll get to keep a bigger piece of your pie and also have more control over everything.

I hope that answers your question. If you meant something else, let me know.

12clicks · 08-06-2002, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexpress
I have ca 15 000 slides/chromes/diapositives. All categories, from soft nude to hardcore. Last year I produced ca 80 hours of pornvideos for 2 of the largest EU distributors, I kept the slides to myself and only gave them scans for videoboxes.

I have been selling slides to Finnish and Swedish pornmagazines now.

What is the situation in rest of EU and USA with slides? How should I sell them? I would be interested in selling in bulk to a dealer/agent, not set by set to magazines.

So what to do? Any ideas?

I'd package them onto CDs. Since you produced them, I assume you could do that.
The market for them is much greater on the internet. The videos, if you still own them also would sell well to paysites.
if that answers your question.

08-06-2002, 07:31 AM

12clicks, I have a pretty simple question as well. I plan on launching an AVS site - targetted on a specific niche, that I believe will (up)sell. I will pack the site with content, and lotsa good stuff so that I (hopefully) get some bookmarkers, too.

Would you recommend stuffing the site with top notch content ? I never dealt with AVS before and I'm afraid that the upsell will not be as good when I already provide the surfer with everything he wishes to see. Thanks

mika · 08-06-2002, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

I hope that answers your question. If you meant something else, let me know.

Yes it does , thank you. I mean selling to the surfer.

A simplification: I wanna sell surfer a membership to a paysite and I have 2 linking options
"NEXT PAGE" or
"GET YOUR CREDIT CARD OUT OF YOUR WALLET AND PREPARE TO PAY $39.95 FOR THIS GREAT SITE, AND BY THE WAY, IT'S RECURRING"
Obviously neither works very well

So finding the optimal selling technique seems to be quite difficult for me. I know I could double or even triple my income with better salesmanship skills.

12clicks · 08-06-2002, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox
12clicks, I have a pretty simple question as well. I plan on launching an AVS site - targetted on a specific niche, that I believe will (up)sell. I will pack the site with content, and lotsa good stuff so that I (hopefully) get some bookmarkers, too.

Would you recommend stuffing the site with top notch content ? I never dealt with AVS before and I'm afraid that the upsell will not be as good when I already provide the surfer with everything he wishes to see. Thanks

Well, I'm a firm believer that you do better upselling when you give the surfer just a tast of something good and then say"see the rest here for $$$"

If I were doing it, I'd use the absolute best video I could lay my hands on but never show a cumshot. Give them a taste of great stuff but never enough to be satisfied. Same with pics. Find *BEAUTIFUL* girls but don't show the snapper. make them pay for the payoff. If they don't buy, the wouldn't have bought with more free content either.

08-06-2002, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

Well, I'm a firm believer that you do better upselling when you give the surfer just a tast of something good and then say"see the rest here for $$$"

If I were doing it, I'd use the absolute best video I could lay my hands on but never show a cumshot. Give them a taste of great stuff but never enough to be satisfied. Same with pics. Find *BEAUTIFUL* girls but don't show the snapper. make them pay for the payoff. If they don't buy, the wouldn't have bought with more free content either.

Yeah, that is true. I wish there wasn't that much pink out there for free... sigh ... thanks !

12clicks · 08-06-2002, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika

Yes it does , thank you. I mean selling to the surfer.

A simplification: I wanna sell surfer a membership to a paysite and I have 2 linking options
"NEXT PAGE" or
"GET YOUR CREDIT CARD OUT OF YOUR WALLET AND PREPARE TO PAY $39.95 FOR THIS GREAT SITE, AND BY THE WAY, IT'S RECURRING"
Obviously neither works very well

So finding the optimal selling technique seems to be quite difficult for me. I know I could double or even triple my income with better salesmanship skills.

This is just something you have to play with until you get it right. make identical pages (content wise) but use different sales pitches. see what works. sometimes its the wildest, stupidest stuff that works. (although the same thing doesn't work forever.

Here's a site: http://www.fatwives.com
its the ugliest site on the net. ther is even a banner for "pork, the other white meat" on it that goes to fatgirls.com this site has done 1:30 for fatgirls.com some months. How does it do it? fuck if I know.

I think you should play with the whole,"here in zee finland aur vomen do zings a bit differently" thing. "amerikans a zuch prudes. click en zee here and see zee finish girlz for $2.95"

(um, that might be my german accept there but you get the idea)

Shit like that works but it has to be different than what other people are doing so when the surfer sees it, its fresh.

12clicks · 08-06-2002, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox

Yeah, that is true. I wish there wasn't that much pink out there for free... sigh ... thanks !

yeah but you don't have to compete by showing pink. if you do a good job teasing them, you'll sell them. They guy showing pink IS NOT making more sales because of it.
If some guy is at his desk looking at porn for and you show him pink, what's left for him to want to buy?

ldinternet · 08-06-2002, 08:36 AM

Agreed... I for one prefer a chick posing in lingerie and stockings, rather than a chick with a dick jammed in her ass. Softcore does sell, just look to LightspeedCash as a good example.

Eq, hit me on ICQ.

TheFLY · 08-06-2002, 09:02 AM

12Clicks your 4 hours are up!!!

Close your legs you info whore!

alex79 · 08-06-2002, 10:37 AM

what is a hitboss?

12clicks · 08-06-2002, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
12Clicks your 4 hours are up!!!

Close your legs you info whore!

don't tease me you man beast. After you tore up my rep I had to rebuild it.

12clicks · 08-06-2002, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alex79
what is a hitboss?

I'm not sure. Could be something like a rumpwrangler.

dikkechill · 08-06-2002, 11:08 AM

Hmms what is internet ?

cya
DIkkechill

12clicks · 08-06-2002, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dikkechill
Hmms what is internet ?

cya
DIkkechill

It's pretty cool. one day the netherlands will get it and you can see for yourself.

dikkechill · 08-06-2002, 11:58 AM

Wow i really looking forward to it

who knows, maybe i can find some free porn...
that would be great

cya
Dikkechill

swedguy · 08-06-2002, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by m00d
ok 12clicks, answer me this un plz....

Whats wrong with the below syntax. I am trying to block all
non-english web browsers from my site. The below seems to
work but not on IE6.0 for some strange reason...
Can u help?...

RewriteCond %{ENV:HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE} !^en
RewriteRule .* http://GoAway.com/ [R]

P.S. I must do this in the htaccess or httpd.conf , I can' use java, php, or asp to help me. They won't work for my application.

Thx!

The HTTP headers are not in ENV, they are in the HTTP variable.

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-Language} !^en
RewriteRule .* http://GoAway.com [R,L]

Gary · 08-07-2002, 06:43 AM

Ok, i got a question

Do you like Wooley chaps???

12clicks · 08-07-2002, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary
Ok, i got a question

Do you like Wooley chaps???

Well, any man trying to tickle my fancy could start with these:

RancidTurtle · 08-07-2002, 07:28 AM

Nice.

Here's my newbie question. Can anybody become a hundredaire off of satire mixed with porn? The infant shell of my site for example:

Bombporn.com

12clicks · 08-07-2002, 07:48 AM

sure you can! as long as you have the payoff pics in the end, it doesn't matter how you get there.

Make a certain comedic line or phase your trademark and people will go,"oh, yeah. I like this guys stuff" when they see the phrase.
know what I mean?

mika · 08-07-2002, 08:05 AM

TGP questions today

1. Is it really possible continuously get a good number of signups from the gallery submissions? With good number I mean something between 1:10,000-1:20,000 ratio (sales per hits to gallery)

(Yesterday we talked about salesmanship, I said that I suck at it, but number of signups amaze even if people could sell. Say if you convert 1:500 you should be able to send 4% out of 20k gallery visitors to a sponsor in order to make 1 sale. To keep the conversation rate at 1:500 you cannot really use blind links, so CTR of 4% seems quite a challenge to me. What am I missing here or do most people talk shit and actually only make 1 sale per 80k visits?)

2. What's up with those really ugly galleries in top of many popular TGP's? Do people have other interests in submissions than just making sales? For example, making a certain site more well known etc? Or is it the same thing that you said yesterday about that Fatwives site which was ugly and yet it sold well...

Speedy26 · 08-07-2002, 08:09 AM

is it a good idea to submit thumbnail pages to SE's, say i have a paysite thats getting good SE traffic and i have made 200 galleries for it, should i submit all 200 thumbnail pages or do the SE's consider that spamming? not all 200 pages in one day just like one a day..

12clicks · 08-07-2002, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
TGP questions today

1. Is it really possible continuously get a good number of signups from the gallery submissions? With good number I mean something between 1:10,000-1:20,000 ratio (sales per hits to gallery)

(Yesterday we talked about salesmanship, I said that I suck at it, but number of signups amaze even if people could sell. Say if you convert 1:500 you should be able to send 4% out of 20k gallery visitors to a sponsor in order to make 1 sale. To keep the conversation rate at 1:500 you cannot really use blind links, so CTR of 4% seems quite a challenge to me. What am I missing here or do most people talk shit and actually only make 1 sale per 80k visits?)

I think TGP guys talk ratios of clicks to sponsors and kinda be vague about how many hits to their site they have. No one is doing 1:500 hits to the gallery. A popular, well bookmarked page may get 1:300 in clicks to the sponsor but thats because the TGP savvy surfer isn't clicking banners so 1:30000 hits to a TGP page would not be unusual.
(unless a TGP dude wants to show stats refuting this)

Quote:

Originally posted by mika

2. What's up with those really ugly galleries in top of many popular TGP's? Do people have other interests in submissions than just making sales? For example, making a certain site more well known etc? Or is it the same thing that you said yesterday about that Fatwives site which was ugly and yet it sold well...

ugly TGPs use less bandwidth. (will you click ALL the pics of an ugly girl or just the best 2 or so) see what I mean? click 2 pics, move on or click my sponsor.

12clicks · 08-07-2002, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Speedy26
is it a good idea to submit thumbnail pages to SE's, say i have a paysite thats getting good SE traffic and i have made 200 galleries for it, should i submit all 200 thumbnail pages or do the SE's consider that spamming? not all 200 pages in one day just like one a day..

submit them all.

you still see some of these jokers clog up an SE with tons of pages. (mostly not relevant)
at least if you're relevant, you won't piss people off and make some money.
sending tons of pages a day might get you banned. otherwise, go for it.

bruk · 08-07-2002, 08:47 AM

What's better, dialers or CC?

08-07-2002, 08:54 AM

12clicks, I have another one:

If I were to let people host on my server for free, no scripting, just plain galleries and such, how do you think I should profit off it ? 404 traffic ? Signup under my affiliate sponsor account ?

12clicks · 08-07-2002, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bruk
What's better, dialers or CC?

CC for US
dialers for the rest of the world.

12clicks · 08-07-2002, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox
12clicks, I have another one:

If I were to let people host on my server for free, no scripting, just plain galleries and such, how do you think I should profit off it ? 404 traffic ? Signup under my affiliate sponsor account ?

Yikes, thats a tough one. most attempts at freehosting have failed. You should take EVERYTHING you can get away with. 404, top placement, etc.
I just don't know if its a viable way of doing business.

cold_ice · 08-07-2002, 09:33 AM

Damn this is a long ass thread. Should I sit a read all this stuff.

Gary · 08-07-2002, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cold_ice
Damn this is a long ass thread. Should I sit a read all this stuff.

Yes. well worth it.

BlackRain · 08-07-2002, 09:45 AM

Do you do this full time?

And, if you do...what do you tell people you do for a living?

Just curious....

Speedy26 · 08-07-2002, 10:18 AM

ok nest question would be..any SE's that i dont have to pay to be listed in? went through a bunch of the bigger ones, all want cash for listings.

12clicks · 08-07-2002, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlackRain
Do you do this full time?

And, if you do...what do you tell people you do for a living?

Just curious....

Me? of course I do this full time.

I tell people I own one of the largest, privately held, internet advertising agencies in the world.

12clicks · 08-07-2002, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Speedy26
ok nest question would be..any SE's that i dont have to pay to be listed in? went through a bunch of the bigger ones, all want cash for listings.

sure. there are enough but don't discount the smaller ones. Hit all that you come across.

Carrie · 08-07-2002, 11:17 AM

Damn, 12Clicks - this was and still is a great thread.
Kudos to KK also for tossing in some good answers.

Here's something I haven't seen anyone ask about.
What's your opinion on token systems, such as using them as an alternative to AVS? Have you ever tried it (and if so, how did it go)?
Are there any that you'd recommend?

I still owe you a beer in Vegas. You should've come to Florida.

12clicks · 08-07-2002, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie
Damn, 12Clicks - this was and still is a great thread.
Kudos to KK also for tossing in some good answers.

KK knows nothing. NOTHING!

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie
Here's something I haven't seen anyone ask about.
What's your opinion on token systems, such as using them as an alternative to AVS? Have you ever tried it (and if so, how did it go)?
Are there any that you'd recommend?

Never dealt with tokens. I never liked the idea. If someone is using them succesfully, I'd love to hear about it. I think its a bit complicated for the surfer and not enough money in it for the webmaster. (but thats just opinion from someone looking from the outside)

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie
I still owe you a beer in Vegas. You should've come to Florida.

Many owe me beer in vegas, few will come thru.

Skrievertie · 08-07-2002, 11:56 AM

i`VE GOTTA FEW QUESTIONS........

What is the meaning of these words????

- FPA
- SE
- AVE
- IMO
- Blur
- Doorway
- niche
- ALT tags

O.k. that`s all folks....

Greetza

12clicks · 08-07-2002, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skrievertie
i`VE GOTTA FEW QUESTIONS........

What is the meaning of these words????

- FPA
- SE
- AVE
- IMO
- Blur
- Doorway
- niche
- ALT tags

O.k. that`s all folks....

Greetza

I don't know. They look Dutch and I'm not Goldmember.

08-07-2002, 12:14 PM

- FPA - Full Page Ad
- SE - Search Engine
- AVE - Avenue
- IMO - I my opinion
- Blur - dunno how to explain
- Doorway - sends your surfer exactly where you want him
- niche - different 'types' of porn, amateur, lesbian, fetish etc.
- ALT tags - ALT tags are alternate descriptions within IMG tags. Helps with SE placement.

or so ....

12clicks · 12-24-2002, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox

- Blur - dunno how to explain

-Blur- a window, when opened, pops behind the existing window.

in case Equinox left you hanging.

ElvisManson · 12-24-2002, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

-Blur- a window, when opened, pops behind the existing window.

in case Equinox left you hanging.

Bored are we?

Evil Chris · 12-24-2002, 09:29 AM

alone at Christmastime...
Ron... come on over for egg-nog man....

12clicks · 12-24-2002, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisManson

Bored are we?

yeah, your boy left me hanging in email. I guess I'm done till after christmas.

ElvisManson · 12-24-2002, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

yeah, your boy left me hanging in email. I guess I'm done till after christmas.

he's off the continent until the show.....maybe if you show up there?

x-vision · 12-24-2002, 11:30 AM

12Clicks,
Thank you for taking the time to help everyone out. I was hoping you could take a look at our site and give some feedback. How would you approach marketing our unique product and what you think about the sales pitch, price points, etc. I appreciate your input!

www.X-Vision3D.com

VIP · 12-24-2002, 11:40 AM

Are you wearing your white sneakers in Vegas this year?

D-Money · 12-24-2002, 11:42 AM

Boxers or briefs?

What's a unique hit?

LOL

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X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	401 Shit !

08-06-2002, 07:31 AM	#405
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	12clicks, I have a pretty simple question as well. I plan on launching an AVS site - targetted on a specific niche, that I believe will (up)sell. I will pack the site with content, and lotsa good stuff so that I (hopefully) get some bookmarkers, too. Would you recommend stuffing the site with top notch content ? I never dealt with AVS before and I'm afraid that the upsell will not be as good when I already provide the surfer with everything he wishes to see. Thanks

08-06-2002, 08:36 AM	#411
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Agreed... I for one prefer a chick posing in lingerie and stockings, rather than a chick with a dick jammed in her ass. Softcore does sell, just look to LightspeedCash as a good example. Eq, hit me on ICQ.

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RancidTurtle Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 6	Nice. Here's my newbie question. Can anybody become a hundredaire off of satire mixed with porn? The infant shell of my site for example: Bombporn.com

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mika Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,561	TGP questions today 1. Is it really possible continuously get a good number of signups from the gallery submissions? With good number I mean something between 1:10,000-1:20,000 ratio (sales per hits to gallery) (Yesterday we talked about salesmanship, I said that I suck at it, but number of signups amaze even if people could sell. Say if you convert 1:500 you should be able to send 4% out of 20k gallery visitors to a sponsor in order to make 1 sale. To keep the conversation rate at 1:500 you cannot really use blind links, so CTR of 4% seems quite a challenge to me. What am I missing here or do most people talk shit and actually only make 1 sale per 80k visits?) 2. What's up with those really ugly galleries in top of many popular TGP's? Do people have other interests in submissions than just making sales? For example, making a certain site more well known etc? Or is it the same thing that you said yesterday about that Fatwives site which was ugly and yet it sold well...

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X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	12clicks, I have another one: If I were to let people host on my server for free, no scripting, just plain galleries and such, how do you think I should profit off it ? 404 traffic ? Signup under my affiliate sponsor account ?

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Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	Damn, 12Clicks - this was and still is a great thread. Kudos to KK also for tossing in some good answers. Here's something I haven't seen anyone ask about. What's your opinion on token systems, such as using them as an alternative to AVS? Have you ever tried it (and if so, how did it go)? Are there any that you'd recommend? I still owe you a beer in Vegas. You should've come to Florida.

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